torn between not okay and maybe kind of cute ([info]kalpurna) wrote,
@ 2009-05-05 16:37:00
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Can't we just agree as a society that evolutionary psychology should have the intellectual credibility of intelligent design?

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[info]emilyray
2009-05-05 09:40 pm UTC (link)
Yes! We'll do that now. \o/


:(

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 09:49 pm UTC (link)
:D :D :D SWEET. I move that next, we decide never to derail discussion of racism with white people's feelings!

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[info]emilyray
2009-05-05 09:51 pm UTC (link)
I LIKE THIS SUPERPOWER. let's say there will also be no derailing of misogyny discussion with men's feelings or homophobia discussion with straight people's feelings!

Also, everyone gets a pony.

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(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 09:57 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]emilyray, 2009-05-05 09:59 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:10 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]emilyray, 2009-05-05 10:21 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]just_katarin
2009-05-05 09:54 pm UTC (link)
oh if ONLY.

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(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 09:58 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]just_katarin
2009-05-05 09:46 pm UTC (link)
anyone who even thinks about bringing up evolutionary psychology should get smacked.

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 09:49 pm UTC (link)
This is an excellent policy. Today a dude in one of my classes told me that "women invented war, right after they invented agriculture!" Thanks for the info, time-traveler.

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[info]just_katarin
2009-05-05 09:54 pm UTC (link)
LOL WHAT? How on earth would ANYONE know that? Dude, wtf kind o class is this that he feels that's an appropriate thing to say?

btw, i am coming back to you!

Edited at 2009-05-05 09:54 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 09:59 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]strobelighted, 2009-05-05 10:03 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:06 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]just_katarin, 2009-05-05 10:05 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:09 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]just_katarin, 2009-05-05 10:11 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:14 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]neverneverfic, 2009-05-06 04:43 am UTC (Expand)

[info]just_katarin
2009-05-05 09:58 pm UTC (link)
also, IL how these dickbags seem to think that if they say something negative couched with a positive we'll somehow be pacified and will let them pass on this shit. LOL NO, DICKBAG.

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(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:00 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]just_katarin, 2009-05-05 10:09 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:11 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]misspamela, 2009-05-05 11:36 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]go_gentle
2009-05-05 09:49 pm UTC (link)
WE'LL MAKE SHIT UP, AND THEN USE IT TO PROVE OTHER SHIT! Like, do we even know enough about how early humans lived to draw any sorts of conclusions from it?

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 09:54 pm UTC (link)
WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHINGGGGG. IT DRIVES ME SO FUCKING CRAZY. A paucity of data is not grounds for a MORE generalizing theory, for Christ's fucking sake.

Even if I had no other objections to it, I think my bullshit-antennae might possibly go up at the way evolutionary psych always seems to COINCIDENTALLY justify the exact social situation and beliefs and worldview of the theorist himself. PURELY BY COINCIDENCE, YOU UNDERSTAND.

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[info]giddygeek
2009-05-05 09:54 pm UTC (link)
WHAT. I am a strong proponent of BOTH evolutionary psychology AND intelligent design and I find this post offensive.

Also I believe in leprechauns. \o/

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 09:56 pm UTC (link)
OH COME ON, GIDDY, I MIGHT DENY MANY THINGS BUT I WOULD NEVER DENY THE EXISTENCE OF LEPRECHAUNS. There was a Disney channel original movie about them!!

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(no subject) - [info]astrophage, 2009-05-05 09:58 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:02 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]astrophage, 2009-05-05 10:07 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:12 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]strobelighted, 2009-05-05 10:22 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:26 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]giddygeek, 2009-05-05 09:59 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:02 pm UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]riadsala, 2009-05-05 10:00 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kalpurna, 2009-05-05 10:03 pm UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]loveyouallwrong, 2009-05-05 11:03 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]barnacling
2009-05-05 11:13 pm UTC (link)
Darby O'Gill and the Little People are proof. Sean Connery would never lie to me.

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[info]strobelighted
2009-05-05 09:58 pm UTC (link)
No.


Now come home and make me a sandwich.

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 10:03 pm UTC (link)
We ARE drowning in bread, so evolutionarily, it would be a good idea!!

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[info]provetheworst
2009-05-05 10:01 pm UTC (link)
bbbbbut kids look more like their fathers because dad's can't be EVOCERTAIN! that the kids are theirs so so so






wait




wait that's not true at all FUUUCK

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 10:04 pm UTC (link)
AAAGHHHH THAT IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT DRIVES ME SO CRAZY. Oh and also it's especially DAUGHTERS that look like their dads, because obviously dads want to stick around for sons, I MEAN COME ON THEY HAVE PENISES, and so they need EXTRA motivation to stick around for lame girls and their lame girl vaginas.

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[info]redbrickrose
2009-05-05 10:05 pm UTC (link)
PLEASE LET'S DO THAT.

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 10:10 pm UTC (link)
I AM SO PLEASED WE HAVE A CONSENSUS :D

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[info]jelliclekat
2009-05-05 10:18 pm UTC (link)
Yeeeah, I can't say for sure on that one, because my brain is still having THIS argument:

"Psychology is the study of human behaviour and is a Good Thing."

"But all behaviour ultimately comes down to neurological functions, so neuroscience is the way to go."

"But but but PEOPLE THINK! Can't we study how their minds operate?"

"No. 'The mind' is a social construct. It doesn't exist."

"Then how do people react to anything based on memories, experiences, learning, etc.?"

"With BRAIN CHEMICALS. Can't do nothing without brain chemicals. Can't even come up with a construct of 'the mind." I WIN."

"But but but I like cognitive behavioural psychology. :("

"BRAIN CHEMICALS, DAMMIT!"

...so yeah, when I've decided whether or not to throw out psychology entirely, I'll get back to you on the finer points. (p.s. This is not me saying "don't be a psychologist!"; this is me saying "maybe I should be a neuroscientist." ANY PSYCHOLOGISTS OUT THERE, PLEASE DON'T HIT ME, I LIKE YOU. :( )

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[info]kalpurna
2009-05-05 10:26 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I really strongly feel like the mind and the self are things worthy of study and understanding, because there's more than just brain chemistry going on there. Brain chemistry doesn't explain the way in which we construct meaning or the ways in which society constructs the individual. (And since when does "X is a social construct" mean "X doesn't exist"? Anything that has an effect on something else exists.) There's all kinds of good stuff in psychology that cannot be accessed by biology at all, and I can take all the antidepressants I want, but without talk therapy I don't get better.

EVOLUTIONARY psychology, on the other hand, is as scientific as the idea of a child inheriting a parent's broken leg.

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[info]barnacling
2009-05-05 11:10 pm UTC (link)
Whatever, I just want pie and to see your face.

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[info]clare_san
2009-05-06 12:54 am UTC (link)
O.M.F.G. YES. Very few things get my blood pressure going like fucking "evolutionary psychology". It is only followed by behavioral studies on animals mating habits.

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[info]flamewarrior
2009-05-06 03:24 am UTC (link)
Yes.

Next question?

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[info]allthespoons
2009-05-06 07:12 am UTC (link)
I often find myself wondering this, only more along the lines of can't we just agree to punch everyone who buys into evolutionary psychology in the dick? >:(

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